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Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1422	Posted - 2013.10.10 18:57:00 - [1] - Quote Seras VictoriaX wrote: Out of game rewards only please. ^^^ This. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1422	Posted - 2013.10.10 19:05:00 - [2] - Quote l0rd carlos wrote: As a fan site owner I got goodies worth of about ~1B and felt honored. I sold the items and gave my corp mates some free ships, which leads to more PvP ingame. It does not matter if it's a Video, a blogpost or a whole Tournament. Some people put so many hours into fan projects and they deserved at least something. It does not matter if it's ISK or just a thank you. Bloggers already get their media account, how about something for those awesome video makers from /my eve/? This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1423	Posted - 2013.10.10 19:24:00 - [3] - Quote If fan-sites etc are rewarded with isk, be it in the form of rare ships or whatever, could it not lead to a situation whereby some folk will learn how to milk-abuse the rewards system? This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1429	Posted - 2013.10.11 14:07:00 - [4] - Quote To those who say they are going to or may quit, I would ask them wait to see what CCP do about this...error of judgment. Those of us who are opposed to the favouritism are against it precisely because we really care about and enjoy Eve Online, where success or failure is fought for (by whatever means) on a level playing field, where the same rules apply to all. The likes of War Kitten and Jenn Aside et al, who constantly try to portray opposition to valuable/useful in-game freebies, as a jealously issue, simply serve to help me realize that as bad as I am at Eve, they are worse. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1431	Posted - 2013.10.11 14:39:00 - [5] - Quote I am not convinced that CCP being involved with a 3rd party gambling site for a game 13 year old kids can play is the best move they have ever made. However, it seems that CCP is going to look at all aspects of this, so all may change in the near future. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1434	Posted - 2013.10.11 17:49:00 - [6] - Quote Why don't we all just wait and see what CCP make of it all? I am pretty sure they are aware of the issues now. It is also worth pointing out (the obvious) that unsubbing means you lose access to the game as well as CCP losing revenue. Perhaps CCP Guard could give some indication of a timescale to resolve this issue. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1435	Posted - 2013.10.12 17:29:00 - [7] - Quote Vaju Enki wrote: Out of game rewards only. So easy, so obviously the solution to the freebie part of the issues. As for the possible RMT part, I have never bought a PLEX nor would I, so I have virtually no knowledge of any possible issues around it. I would rather earn my shiny new ship etc doing stuff in the game rather than buy in-game stuff using real money. However, each to their own and all that class of thing. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1437	Posted - 2013.10.13 10:32:00 - [8] - Quote Scatim Helicon wrote: Miss Ladybird wrote: 5) CCP just wont give up the 'SOMERblink is a community hub, does good for the eve community and is altruistic' campaign. Most players hate SOMERblink. To be honest, I doubt most players particularly care about SOMER one way or another, and stating "Most players hate SOMERblink" undermines what is otherwise a good post. This isn't about SOMER directly, this is about CCP arbitrarily picking the winners and losers in what is supposed to be a player-driven sandbox. I for one, had not, to the best of my knowledge, ever heard of SBlink. Perhaps that is because I do not gamble. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1438	Posted - 2013.10.13 11:30:00 - [9] - Quote Anyone know the history of S Blink? Are they an outside gambling site which alighted upon Eve, or were they originally a player corp who came up with an isk making (a fool and his isk are easily parted) idea? This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1438	Posted - 2013.10.14 18:44:00 - [10] - Quote I would suggest that CCP have read the player feedback on this issue and that they are formulating a response to past events and how they intend to proceed in the future. It is better that they take their time and get it right, rather than posting something just for the sake of posting. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1443	Posted - 2013.10.15 12:20:00 - [11] - Quote 'Common sense', how you just 'know' the world works when you are 18. I think that the length of time CCP is taking to respond, is an indication that they are talking all the relevant issues very seriously. Also, capital punishment is very popular with the masses in the UK, - it's common sense, innit? - this does not make it right. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1445	Posted - 2013.10.16 18:45:00 - [12] - Quote Possible survey question? Should CCP show the likes of Somer Blink: 1) Some favouritism 2) A great deal of favouritism Thank you for your input. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1449	Posted - 2013.10.17 07:14:00 - [13] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: Some of you are doing this and I appreciate the effort whether I agree with them or not. To put down what you want in simple statements without all the emotional baggage is hard, I get that. (I have kids) This is just so patronizing. Dear Mike, I also have 'kids' and they are probably older than you. Simple, for your benefit Mike, CCP favouring any player corp with 'stuff' which can be used in-game is wrong. Barbie stuff is fine. Simple enough for you? This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1453	Posted - 2013.10.17 15:12:00 - [14] - Quote It would be helpful if someone from Some Blink posted a defence of their activities, in particular the charge that they are involved in RMT. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1455	Posted - 2013.10.17 16:13:00 - [15] - Quote Trebor Daehdoow wrote: Din Chao wrote: [quote=Trebor Daehdoow]So, in your words, you've been told TRILLIONS of times by the community... More likely I've been told trillions of times by the same 10 guys and their alts. Everyone else just calmly gives me their opinions, concerns, and votes. How many of the possible player votes did you actually get? This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1458	Posted - 2013.10.18 12:41:00 - [16] - Quote Frying Doom wrote: DNSBLACK wrote: Handsome Feller wrote: DarkDecay, I know, however there are additional rules regarding Character sale when compared to any other type. That's my point and if CCP so chooses, they could use those additional rules to justify wielding their mighty pork sword. hence why I said it's a shame that dns didn't do it with an iScorp and not a character as that pitches players into the potential "legal" rmt. Do me a favor and show me the evidence. Build your case against me I would love to here it. I believe it is to be titled: The case of the Mighty Pork Sword. Sounds like a badly written Sherlock Holmes mystery to me. Sherlock Holmes did porno? Or was that John Holmes? This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1461	Posted - 2013.10.20 21:53:00 - [17] - Quote Mike Azariah wrote: Kate, I agree that the results will be slightly skewed no matter how you slice it. That is why we are poolling in multiple methods, here in the forums and via the larger shotgun spread of the CCP mail version. Here in the forums is an sub community. The people who metagame who do more than just PLAY the game. (Or play a larger part of it) WE care, enough to spend time writing and discussing the issues of the game. But do you think we represent the majority of the players? Do they deserve a voice and a say if they cannot be bothered to come onto the forums and educate themselves? If they do deserve that voice how do we give it to them? m Those who voted for the CSM are a sub community. Do you think those who voted in the CSM election represented the majority of players? Should multiple forms/methods have been used to select the CSM? Do you think those who could not be bothered and educate themselves about the CSM enough to vote deserve a voice and how should we give it to them? Funny how a tiny number of votes (of the entire player base) can get folk elected to the CSM, but more representative methods are needed to decide if CCP favouring some player corps is acceptable. CCP giving any player corp an in-game advantage is wrong. Non tradable Barbie stuff is fine. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1461	Posted - 2013.10.20 22:00:00 - [18] - Quote Kate stark wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: CCP giving any player corp an in-game advantage is wrong. Non tradable Barbie stuff is fine. CCP giving any in-game entity anything in-game is wrong. CCP have demonstrated time and time again they have plenty of awesome out of game things they can give to people as "rewards" and "thank yous" and such like. **** me, look at the models they gave away at eve vegas. they are pretty awesome, give those to people who do cool stuff. ^^^ You got my vote deary This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1467	Posted - 2013.10.21 09:12:00 - [19] - Quote By 'Barbie stuff' I mean non in-game usable, for example named planets, a gold star by their portrait, hi-sec stations named after them etc. This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1467	Posted - 2013.10.22 20:19:00 - [20] - Quote Surely it would be better for folk to await the outcome of the Somer Blink et al - 'freebies to friends of CCP' debacle, then make a decision to quit or stay? It seems to me that CCP have accidentally stumbled into this mess, rather than gone into it with malice aforethought, and are now considering their options, which will be based in part on the feedback from the proposed survey. One always to bear in mind that Eve Online is a game to us, but in reality Eve Online is a business model to generate money for CCP. My gut feeling is that CCP will weigh up the cost of the money gained from their association with the likes of Somer Blink against the potential financial cost of lost accounts and act accordingly. I sincerely hope I am wrong and that CCP stop favouring in-game corps with valuable in-game assets, simply because it is wrong. This is not a signature.

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